I was blown away. And it had all of these allies not just in the media, but among the angelical industrial complex, other megachurch pastors, everything. What makes you stick with that model and believe it can still be used despite how badly that model has been abused? Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. All the times something didnt seem right. If youre looking for a car I encourage you to visit my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. They need accountability. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. And you have to, there must be assiduous accountability going on in the life of someone who has the big radio show has the big platform, his platform at conferences and large organizations, because the temptations are greater. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. So, and youre the chairman of your board. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. Theyre not holding anybody accountable then. Im good friends with Vonda Dyer, who worked at Willow and was one of the women who bravely came forward with her story about her interactions with Bill Hybels. WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? The ministry began in 1971 while Stuart served as senior pastor of Elmbrook Church in Brookfield, Wisconsin, which grew into the largest evangelical church in the state. I totally agree with you Julie on how I viewed the Clergy and Church growing up. I mean, you dont need to be trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, because it is gonna manifest itself in bad ways. Is that correct? Like so many of you, I love Pete. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. So appreciate. Let the Briscoes help you experience Life in all its fullness! Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray David Jankowski. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! And yet youre still in a megachurch, multi-site church. And I think Christian leaders need to start stepping up. And I really was hopeful that there was going to be a public apology, and yet, None. And this is whats so difficult. So there were more than 10 women that came forward and said that there was sexual misconduct by Bill Hybels. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. Hes like, I wasnt trying to protect the man, who by chance was his brother in law. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. Frankly I find church to be excruciatingly lonely. Yes, probably a number of your listeners are aware of the situation where the Ortbergs and Mellados had tried to report to the board an alleged long term affair that Bill Hybels was engaged in and the church hired an outside investigator to investigate the situation. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. Its about serving God. Boy, and if more churches did that, how much pain and heartache among the sheep would have been spared? Pete has offered to Theyve got a little bit of the guide part. Can you imagine how many books that sold her? Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Telling another woman, how she looks in a dress and how it accentuates her body, everything up to an alleged affair, to Pat Baronowski, Bill Hybels longtime assistant, stating in the New York Times said Bill Hybels made her obtain pornography and they watched it together. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. You know, Hybels daughter had her own book on Oprahs book club. That goes to the guarding role that Attorney Mitch shared. My personal belief, not speaking on behalf of anyone else, my personal belief is that that structure is designed to fail, because elders cant elder in that structure. But the thing that was so shocking to me, is that Bill Hy Hybels was the first pastor I had ever seen be so vulnerable from the pulpit. So Im very much looking forward to our time together today. My husband and I actually bought our last car from our court and we had a great experience. There was another case that also occurred where he committed oral sex with his assistant. Petes teaching and emphasis on the sufficiency of Christ leaves an indelible mark on so many of our souls. Interestingly enough, during the interview, he seemed extremely angry and resentful. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. Although theres been some. Yeah, without using any names. And I realized that as we were discussing this, that there might be some people who have heard about what happened at Willow Creek, but somewhat superficially, through the headlines and dont really know beneath the surface. They made a lot of friends a lot of money over the years selling books, promoting programs, platforming them at conferences, platforming them at the Global Leadership Summit. However, there should be a bubble level of character in Christ that we return to. etc. And I think there was, but I think that theres a spiritual stronghold around celebrity culture within evangelicalism writ large. :), I would strongly urge you to research Voice of the Martyrs. Julie, it is great to be with you again. Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? Well, lets talk a little bit about the leadership that protected him because I think that is the question that I keep hearing over and over from folks is, How do we prevent this from happening? Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Lawyers are, by definition, advocates, right? The small tape recording process drew the attention of many people who were eager for a copy of the teaching they heard at church to share with friends and neighbors. And he came back and said, I cant do this anymore.. Destroyed by a staff person is my understanding. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. I want to thank Pete too for advocating for women participating fully in leadership and for Libby modeling what it means to be a true helper (ezer kenegdo). Youre absolutely right. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. But what happens when there is a sheep within the flock who needs to be defended? It manifested at the Human Resources level. You can choose from more than 60 majors and learn in a Christian environment known for its spiritual values, leadership opportunities, and strong financial aid. I am with you in this sad place of justified disappointment in the church. Through Petes teaching on Sundays and through various conversations with other staff members during the week, God shifted my perspective on what it means to live life in Christ one from my own efforts to please God to one of Christs efforts on my behalf to love me deeply, extravagantly, and permanently. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. They didnt have the ability to respond to new issues as they arose. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. So Mitch has a very unique perspective. Great! I think the larger the platform, the more rigorous the accountability needs to be. And I think theres a kind of an old guard of megachurch pastors and leaders that think that theyre above accountability and theyre beginning to realize theyre not. Yes, I have be disillusioned many times by churches and some leaders. It was a huge fixture in evangelicalism. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe At least, thats how I saw it. How do we deal with claims of sexual abuse? It was like trying to fit a battleship through a set of French doors. These are people that may be in the cubicle next to you at work, who have an acuity for blending in to normal life. On this episode of The Roys Report, Julie explores these important questions with Mitch Little, whos not just an attorney for victims. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe What is it was Chicago? Because we represent their interests. Ive asked that question many times. Well, and it troubles me too, that so many of our Christian organizations seem to be more beholden to lawyers advice and counsel than they do the Word of God. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. He represented two women involved in the sex abuse scandal involving Bill Hybels. That is not a matter of policy. And I remember you saying once that you had gotten a manual, I think it was from the ECFA, and boy, we could talk about them. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. And so I thought it was so funny that James MacDonald had his house in the name of an entity called Vanilla Bean LLC. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Im wary of the theatrical, evangelical stars that are so prevalent now. And he realized that he had missed an opportunity to share Christs love with this person, and he didnt even feel worthy to give this message tonight, you know, and he got teared up and, and Im watching this, you know, as a 20, early 20 something right? I heard an elder once describe his role as a glorified sanitation engineer. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. If you go back and you look at Bill Hybels books in retrospect, Im amazed at some of the things that are contained in his books that people became okay with. You have your identity rooted in something other than Christ, the centrality of Christ. And not elevated above it. When the when the mans lying on the side of the road, naked and bleeding, theyre the priests who cross the street. And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. You know, people like Dee Parsons, Julie Anne Smith, Julia Dahl, and people who I knew would not stop talking about it and would not stop talking about it for months. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. It was the summer of 2000, and I was a college student on staff at Pine Cove Christian Camp. 1 talking about this. And I still havent been able to get her to visit with me. I would probably have been among those who defended Bill saying, He couldnt have done these things; Hes too strong of a Christian leader. I see this culture as similar to the Corinthian church with the man who was involved with his fathers wife. Hes one of the good guys. Do you understand what Im saying? Its M-I-L-G-R-A-M the Milgram experiment, but basically American researchers were trying to figure out after World War II, why so many in German society were willing to go along with the Nazis or go along with their leadership, do incalculably horrible things to people. Its How do we protect the entity and the entity as expressed through the person of Bill Hybels? Once you make that decision that youre willing to protect the entity or the person in charge of the entity to the detriment of members of the body or members of the staff, youve made some poor choices that are going to have consequences. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. You know, I think, Julie, the other thing that was really whacked out about Willows elder board, and I didnt find this out until very late in the representation was they operated by design out of unanimity. I dont know the answer but rampant clergy abuse just took my discontentment to a whole new level. And I was sitting in my office one day and Vonda picked up the phone and gave me a call and kind of told me what was coming down the pike in terms of the Chicago Tribune article that basically lit the fuse on that entire situation at Willow. He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. And we need to apologize. I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. I think there was a culture of pride at Willow that basically said, We are the elite of the Christian world. At the end of the day the aftermath of destruction is felt on so many levels by so many people and we all react differently in our humanness. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? I wonder, I wonder what effect that might have had on them. I appreciate your feedback. And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. Im still waiting for the apology for the public apology for giving. They were almost sacred and benevolent and unable to do wrong. There was a period of time, Ill call, The Great Loneliness after that Chicago Tribune article came out, where they were radioactive. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. When you have a woman who says I was molested by a staff member, or you have a staff member who says, Bill Hybels just threw a punch at me, or dog cuts me up and down the hallway, those arent matters of policy, Julie. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. Yes, in the course of representing these women, it became obvious that this was not what Ill call an echelon or tier leadership problem, just at Bill Hybels level. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." I was the senior pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship for nearly 30 years. What I do, you know, and what Ministry Watch is doing and what all these independent bloggers are doing, that its bringing accountability. I hope someday I can overcome this cynicism because I need Church as it should be. So a young person in our high school ministry. With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, Also, Id encourage you to read the website below. What I saw happen at Willow is, the board as a unit was willing to dissemble in the amount necessary to preserve the organization. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. But you lose the guarding mechanism, which I think in todays in todays cultural moment, its probably the most important aspect of eldering. And presented them with the information, he essentially tossed it to the side and said, So what?, No consequences. And that that was something that taught you an awful lot about how elder board should deal with sexual impropriety or sexual abuse within their own walls. None at all. And when I came into the representation, that was a new term to me, Id never heard anything like it. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. And it turns out there were a lot more women who had been affected by Bill Hybels. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. I think there were a few major events. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? Pete was preaching from Hebrews, and he was making the New Covenant come alive before all of us. Leave them alone. I can see the elders (more than half of which were women), and people in general saying, It was only a hug. Really what it is, Julie, if we want to get down to it and go to spiritual or biblical terms, these are these are works of the flesh when were not led by the Spirit. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray I think that was a move of God, a move of the Holy Spirit. Yeah, apparently its not going to happen. I will always have my faith in Jesus but church especially WCCC has been a huge disappointment. But other than that, you know, there just werent a lot of people in the larger church speaking and there had to have been a lot of church leaders who knew about what was going on and knew that there were problems with Bill Hybels. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Its a serious analog for what happened at Willow. What Ive told people is, If you are not ready to blow yourself or the organization up in five seconds flat, you need to find a different hobby.. And the Nancy Ortberg situation, a hug that lasted too long. And someone Im extremely glad is serving in church leadership. Also, major problems. And so when I looked at that in the context of James MacDonald going, you know what, thats the type of accountability that man needed and was denied. But it just has not really looked like true repentance in so many ways. When I came onto our board, the terms that Pete Briscoe used were, guide, govern and guard. And I think policy governance has the governing part. Later Telling the Truth began airing in several countries in southeast Asia and across 10 countries in southern Africa. Friends are important! The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. He said, Pete, you should have one lawyer on your board but not more than one. And I believe that there is some really sound wisdom in that. I mean, that is just huge. Very few. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Please contact us or click here to learn more about how to enable JavaScript on your browser. Thank you so much. So Scot, its like the scene in The Avengers when Iron Man just kind of drops out of the sky. It was everything from Vonda Dyers situation of being asked to come up to Bills room and talk leadership and a forced kiss, you know, a grab around the waist. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. And I think it wasnt a problem, Mitch, because everybody always agreed with whatever the senior pastor wanted. Please note, our website requires JavaScript to be supported. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. Absolutely. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. And you made the statement that if you have the character to lead, you dont need a manual. Yeah, that is super dangerous. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. and so I almost feel like the elder boards are there to keep the honest person honest. I Bent Tree is a multi site mega church in the Dallas Fort Worth area thats had its own share of crises over the past several years. I dont think that theres anything at a mega church that innoculates it from being good. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. How do you recommend searching worth while places to donate too? He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is Im doing well but probably not as well as you because youre on vacation in Florida. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. Because they, I mean, they had a massive PR machine they had, they hired Mark DeMoss, his firm to come in and try to resolve things from a PR standpoint. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. So I was really struggling with my faith. But essentially, it was the board being asked to deal with matters of policy and then all matters of implementation really get left to the vocational staff in the church. What eventually broke the culture of secrecy and protection? Well, early on in the process after the Tribune article, we had to make a decision, How are we going to fight a machine of this size that is basically promulgating lies about these women and their families and their supporters? And I reached out to people that I already knew within, you know, the watch blogging community. Let me give you some examples. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. That night we had a guest speaker come in for a special presentation. I had no idea what to expect as this lone man stood on the stage. I think it took courage. And yet, when these issues started being raised about Bill Hybels, the larger church, other than you know, a few people you mentioned the Ortbergs, for example, they came forward and spoke. Its my understanding that was a watershed moment. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. To me, this was one of the beautiful God moves about the entire situation. And today Im excited to be speaking with Mitch Little. And wasnt there something with Bill Clinton coming to the church and speaking? Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. To me, Bill did not come across as a predator, flirty or suggestive with women. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. Put a skin tag on it or a flesh tag. They had these Global Leadership Summits. I was a member of WCCC for many years. They show up, they sell books. 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