South Africa [during the World Cup] was never going to be a problem because of the distance. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. Speaking afterwards, Detective Chief Inspector John Oldham, from the Mets Public Order Crime team, said: "This group of men were involved in serious fighting and violent disorder outside a pub; behaviour that, quite simply, is totally and utterly unacceptable. By bearberliana. With Euro 2012 on the way, the papers are full of panicky stories about the Polish authorities combing hooligan databases, neo-Nazi groups ambushing peaceful fans and riots stopping games. "We class ourselves as family. Some of you need to earn your stripes on the cobbles. It was a working-class style, a genuine subculture. Sure, the Arsenal boys had their own response to the West Ham mobs (Danny Miller and a few of his lot infamously took liberties in the Boleyn seats one year) Any soldiers known to be intent on causing trouble would be prevented from travelling, he said. I still fight at football, says Peter, 43, in hushed tones in a Soho pub. [2] During the 1980s, Connell was highly active in an Arsenal FC's hooligan "firm" and was a "main face" amongst the ranks. For example Dainton Connell (aka Denton The Bear Connell) was considered to be a folk hero by large sections of the Arsenal fans, however he unfortunately died in a car crash back in 2007, it was approximated that around 3000 mourners showed up to the funeral. However, the name is now used by most non-hooligan Arsenal supporters. My Lancashire colleague knows who they are and I asked about Arsenal's risk supporters' intentions. However, over a very short period of time, WEiE grew up and turned it back round. Andy Nicholls is the author of Scally: The Shocking Confessions of a Category C Hooligan. There are only a handful of faces I can think of who were properly at it missing from these pics so I dont really know what you are on about Pigs ears. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. However nowadays the name is mainly used by the majority of Arsenal supporters (the non-hooligan sector) who consider themselves to be die hard Arsenal supporters. Gooners pay tribute to fan who became folk hero, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dainton_Connell&oldid=1101792330, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 21:04. At Daintons funeral we had wreaths from the ICF and Tottenhams Yid Army and we had boys coming down from every city to march behind his coffin. The Herd, the other Arsenal firm, was mainly active between the late 1970s and early 1990s, although the Herd still exist today, they now prefer to stay undercover. "It would need a culture change. It was very rare that anyone brought a camera to a game back then,these are probably the only photos that exist from the glory years and the main faces are well represented here. "CCTV evidence led to two of them receiving a 15-month prison sentence, which reflects that the judge has an understanding of the organised pre-planned ferocity of the incident.". Although Arsenal fans have a good reputation, the club does have a small hardcore following of around 80 thugs. ", The hooligans agree. In the late 70s, the not then called, The Yids were fkg giants compared to us little tadpoles. Most of the time, the top boys were also the best dressed, setting the agenda for the rapidly moving world of casuals fashion. The arrangements are tried and tested throughout each football season, as around 100,000 English fans travel to international and European club matches overseas. Lots of using your initiative. - Riot With Style British police 'spotters' will alert their Danish colleagues to known hooligans, while the Danes have pledged to ban any fan without a ticket from entering the country. And I werent part of any yid firm when it mattered? The internet provides an easy way for hooligans to arrange meetings. It was a kind of drag, a disguise. He went on to appear in videos for the Pet Shop Boys, an unlikely fusion wrought in the illicit raves of the late 1980s. Peter talks about violence the way Alcoholics Anonymous members talk about drinking as something beautiful and addictive and almost born within him. Precisely how active they are is difficult to gauge. I remember showing up one week in Tacchini, feeling proud of my label and seeing three top boys come round the corner in Burberry jackets, wearing deerstalker hats and carrying walking sticks, and realising Tacchini was over. 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Contents 1 Matt Buckner 2 Pete Dunham 3 Tommy Hatcher 4 So the tales in my book are written by me not some poncey author with no idea about football. I must say most of the top boys were not dtupid enough to have thier photos taken at every opportunity like in these pictures do you are wsy offmark and mussing 99 percent of them. At the same time, he was influential in ensuring that the BNP then trying to infiltrate football firms failed to gain any foothold at Arsenal.[3][4]. I picked him up and told him he was showing us up,the cunt nearly cried. Have something to tell us about this article? [1] He left school at 16 and became a scaffolder. We got idiots on youtube who like you were never there and are proper embarrassing-Hooligooner, eie herdsman etc-all the same person who logs in with other accounts to upvote himself and even fucking talks to himself, what a clown.All he does is repeat shit hes read on other posts and sites and people entertain the cunt, a bit like you, knows fuck all and done even less. Theyll have contacts in the music industry, membership of private clubs and a decent pension plan. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Id rather have my memories than a huge bank balance. We have several options for advertisement, Hooligans TV Copyright 2015, All Rights Reserved. [1], Connell was born in 1961 in Brighton, England to Jamaican parents. Regardless of those that come along. Call yourselves fans? Of course there is a very small minority of individuals who will cause disorder on occasion and we have strong legislation in place to deal with these people. Mid to late 70s you had some numbers up for it around Highbury but you cant say you went to the lane and won. In 1977, he gained public attention after appearing in a television documentary presented by Janet Street-Porter about skinheads. I read hoolifan and in it all the Chelsea lads I knew Martin King rip was gonna do a foreward for my book but now Ill put a section of him . Your continued use of this site indicates your acceptance of the terms and conditions specified. I can tell from your comments your a tool. "I'd suggest that was cowardly because its easy to attack a defenceless pub. PC Pete Dearden, Arsenal's football intelligence officer, says: "At a high-profile game at Arsenal where there are 60,000 people coming, we are looking at 150 to 200 who are part of the risk supporters group. Flight Options, which handles travel to football games and had a significant contract with FIFA for World Cup flights to South Africa, was founded by a former member of The Herd. The Ministry of Defence said it would investigate plans by any soldiers to go to Copenhagen. "You might get a situation where Arsenal risk supporters sit in a pub near a stadium, then they might meet at a transport hub say King's Cross for northern teams in the hope that, even if it's a CCTV-dominated area, we're just not going to find out about it.". I cant think of any historical links or bonds, save for Stewart Robson, Liam Brady and Freddie Ljungberg playing for them. There was a top DJ, an author, two journalists, a broker, a former pop star, two major er businessmen, a City tech-analyst and no doubt many more who were never meant to make anything of themselves. They point to last August's trouble between West Ham and Millwall during a Carling Cup tie in east London in which an innocent Millwall supporter was stabbed, West Ham fans invaded the pitch and police made 64 arrests. I could go on and clue you up about our adventures with West Ham , Millwall and Chelsea, but as you wasnt there you wouldnt believe it . Correct, late 70s 80s tottenham all over shitbury time and time again ! The Herd. West Ham fans Christopher Love, 28, of Benfleet, Essex, and Paul Ogden, 36, of Church Island, Staines, had previously admitted violent disorder . Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. The highs and lows of relegation , promotion fa cup draw and if the team we played would turn out and stories like how youve said like with the 657, under Fives, ICF and Im sure you know but most wont admit it cass will not be remembered as a hooligan just a bloke who did good and wrote books we well I never rated him. Unlike you who seems to b telling us that you done everyone. "Through our investigations, we have identified a large number of those responsible and they are now facing the very serious consequences of their actions. Many patients come to The Lamb Clinic after struggling to find answers to their health challenges for many years. The only bod I can think of who brought a camera to some home games was big S.G the boxer,and I never saw a single photo he took,and he never travelled away apart from Ipswich one year about 82 when we had a free reign over the farmer divs up there,no opposition at all,mugs. The first hurdle after the tube was the Queens, a drinking den inhabited by West Hams nastiest nutters and it was a case of eyes down, march on and try at least to avoid a beating before you got near the ground and queued to get in.That done (and there was never any guarantee that the East End loons wouldnt sup up and pick out visiting supporters before returning to their drinks) the next step was to avoid being battered as you lined up to get in the South Bank. "Those involved in the worst of the disorder are now facing lengthy custodial sentences and this should serve as a warning to other fans that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated.". The Gooners were a violent football hooligan firm mainly active in the 1980s and 1990s. Home Office figures for the 2008-09 season show an average of only 1.18 arrests per match, an overall total of 3,752 from the 38 million people who attended games in England and Wales that year. It's the height of disrespect in the hooligan world to turn over the opposition's pub. Some are as old as 65. If you look at the jeans alone, football fans went from skintight to flares to bell bottoms to tapered to 501s and on to baggy in a short period. If anyone is still in contact with S.G ask him to put all the photos up on the Herd site,would be good to see the ones he took of the riot down Seven sisters just before the Brixton & Toxteth riots broke out!,we were the leading fucking trendsetters and fashion icons of our day ; ). A couple of the main firm Arsenal firm are in these pics .Yes well underated .Smashed the yids plenty of times mainly awsy from the grounf just like we done to modt firms up and down the country.I must say we had plenty of small firms mixed intoit and plenty of in fighting . He says: "The number of incidents has gone up and so are our prosecutions. From $19.58. The Zulus have been together for over 25 years now. Why? Every week Dearden gathers intelligence from his counterparts at other clubs, "spotters" at train and motorway service stations, the transport police, traffic wardens, the public and paid informants on the inside of the Herd so he can grade the risk of potential violence and call in police resources. In the first issue it summed up its audience: We are aiming at the boy (or girl) who one day stands on the terraces, the next stands in a sweaty club, and the day after stays in and reads Brendan Behan while listening to Run-DMC. The magazine later launched the record label Junior Boys Own which went on to introduce the Chemical Brothers, Underworld and the Black Science Orchestra to the world. too. Arsenal 's Kieran Tierney has revealed why his Gunners team-mates refer to him as a "hooligan" as he opened up on the club's best and worst dressed players. An associate of the soldier gang told The Observer that the invitation to Leeds thugs to join them in Copenhagen was extended after Arsenal beat French side Lens to reach the Uefa Cup Final but Leeds went out to Galatasaray. The Scot has become a firm favourite with Arsenal fans and team-mates alike since making the 25million move from boyhood club Celtic back in the summer of 2019. And they were all doing deals, whether that be scallies nicking trainers from German stores and selling them back in Liverpool, firms sorting their own transport or, in the late 1980s, crews who ran raves and did a bit of dealing. Firm members and the firm itself are sometimes known as the Men in Black, due to the Diligent and effective policing and widespread use of surveillance cameras make sure there is rarely any trouble at matches. I have respect for your proper old school and used to drink with some of them in the White hart opposite the old Bassetts sweet factory on white hart lane, good banter and never any grief,we avoided each other when it kicked off at a game or station and had a giggle about it after. Come and have a go if you think you're cool enough, You must be at least 18 years old to create an account, Must be at least 6 characters, include an upper and lower case character and a number, I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from Evening Standard. Privately, the FA, BTP, the police on the ground and the government understand they have to remain wary. Thomas is respected among soccer yobs for his organisational skills and connections throughout the hooligan world. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Away from the ground it is a different story. He wanted goon squad but that got the big NO. [1] The Herd are a hooligan gang. Now it's the first arrest and a three-year ban, minimum. Since then troublemakers from the other four British clubs, including members of the infamous 'Chelsea headhunters' gang, have agreed to join forces. WebThere are two Arsenal hooligan firms, The Gooners (a mutation of the club's nickname, The Gunners) and The Herd. cos you reckon your a Yid and you got chelsea mates,you obviously aint from the manor cos no real yid would have chelsea mates and you aint ever been involved so fuck off with the bunny you soppy little cunt.Your all over youtube giving it then deleting your comments out of embarrassment not because you might incriminate yourself cos you aint ever done fuck all.Cos no cunt wanks off over your mob from the 80s cos it didnt exist must grate you which is why you spend so much time online talking bollocks.We came to yours 50 handed 4 years ago and embarrassed you,theres videos on youtube of it as proof and I know you seen it cos I see your bollocks written on the comments,Northumberland park your lot bottled.Now fuck off. Who is brave enough to ID the origins of the creation of the name Yids? Dearden says that while there is a hooligans' code, their preferred drug has changed. You can opt-out at any time by signing in to your account to manage your preferences. With the European Championship in Poland coming up, I fear what may happen. Tags Arsenal England The Gooners The Herd, forgot to mention days of the 80s when the Adelaide P.H in Liverpool rd used be main staging place and how used kick off down Liverpool rd after the derby matches. Essential T-Shirt. Arsenal fans Charlie Barker, 22, of Redhill Street, King's Cross, Jack Bulley, 23 of Wanstead Park Road, Ilford, and 43-year-old Lee Bowering, of Percy Road, Romford, all pleaded guilty. They were sentenced on January 11 to six months, suspended for 18 months, and ordered to pay 500 costs. Remember all the boys, including Denton. Each email has a link to unsubscribe. They have played a key role in putting together the six-club coalition. A Tottenham hooligan turned MMA fighter has recalled his violent life, saying he used to want his beloved team to lose so it would kick off outside the stadium. Dearden is sure the problem will never completely go away. "Fifa are mature and sophisticated enough to look at the big picture, not just pick up on isolated incidents because they don't reflect the behaviour of football fans in stadiums," he says. I once saw one lad taxed of his trainers just before he got through the turnstile. Police reported only seven arrests, which was seen as a triumph. Mind you, The Gooners weren't shy of a little cobble action either. Police with dogs, riot gear and video equipment set up a no-go area after the game to keep Leeds followers away from the 550 or so Millwall fans. Dont need to give different names on YT either. Dante Hawkins, 31, recalled his violent upbringing on the streets of West London before getting into football hooliganism and a first fight with Portsmouth fans aged 14. The hooligan problem and football violence that just won't go away Strict policing ensured the Leeds v Millwall match went off without major disorder but there as said you may of won couple of small duels with numbers near highbury but you couldnt paste those firms. Millwall fans travelling to yesterday's game at Elland Road had to pick up their tickets from a motorway service station on the way into Leeds, which kept them off the trains, and they were escorted in and out of the ground. I for one cant forget Trevor Brooking heading home for a 1-0 win over usin the 1980 FA Cup final but I remember comforting myself on the train home to Sussex with the fact that we were on our way to Brussels for the Cup Winners Cup Final against Valencia and surely we couldnt lose two finals in the space of five days? After we went down then the first season back up, 78-79 we took a huge mob to Highbury and managed to take at least 3 quarters of The North Bank. How damaging does Thomas think any problems might be to England's hopes of hosting the tournament? It was no business school, but you learned a lot. ES. Physically, the drive used to be alcohol that fuelled this anti-social behaviour. 80's Arsenal had a very big hooligan following, for a time probably the top one in London and one of the few to take it to places up north. 2010s battle between Chelseas notorious Headhunters hooligan firm and Cardiff Citys Soul Crew was the rare exception a sprawling fight between the two firms spilled on to the Kings Road, leading to police horse charges, high-profile arrests and jail sentences. And the recent rash of hooligan memoirs such as The Football Factory and England Away has produced almost 100 kick-lit books name-checking more than 150 hooligan firms; two of the publishing houses dominating the hit-and-tell genre, Headhunter Books and Pennant Books, are run by former hooligans: Chelseas Martin King and West Hams Cass Pennant. 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